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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote2011-08-03 09:53 am
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"Real Name" policies: They just don't work.

I've been watching the debate raging around Google Plus's crackdown on "names they perceive to be insufficiently 'real'" with interest, and was really happy to see the "soft launch" of My Name Is Me, a project intending to shed light on the fact that self-chosen names are not "fake names" and that anonymity, pseudonymity, and the use of self-chosen names (I've seen some people moving to call that state "autonymity", which I like a lot) is not harmful to the health and well-being of an online service.

This is something I care about a lot. I've spent the last ten years of my life, more or less, immersed in the idea of what it takes to build a healthy online community and how to handle (and discourage) the abuses that develop. I've dealt with harassment, death threats, stalking, and a whole host of vile things people can say and do to each other online. (And I haven't been exempt, either; at least part of my decision to use my 'real name', which I don't feel any emotional connection with at all, for my work on Dreamwidth has been to help increase the positive mentions of said name on the internet and drown out the Google results from several of those harassment campaigns.)

When we decided to start Dreamwidth, I did a lot of thinking about what my ideal online community would be. Our decisions for policies, community design, etc, were sharply shaped by the existing codebase we chose to use and the design thereof, but we did make a bunch of changes while we were still in design mode in order to shape the community we wanted to take place. (Biggest example there: the split of "friend" into "I want to read you" vs "I want you to read my locked stuff", which is the #1 change I credit in the development of DW as a service where people are overwhelmingly willing to reach outside their existing social circles, make new contacts and new friendships, and seek out differing points of view and differing ideas. Which, if I haven't said it lately, is absolutely awesome.)

One thing we never, ever, ever considered, even for a moment, was instituting a "real name" policy to prevent abuses. Why? Because it doesn't fucking work.

Many of the people who caused the worst problems on LiveJournal over the years had registered with some variant on their "real" name, or had their "real" name in their profile somewhere, or were widely known under their "real" name. (I use "real" in scarequotes deliberately, because god damn it, "rahaeli" is my real name. So's "synecdochic". The entire staff I supervised at LJ, both volunteer and paid employee, called me "rahaeli" or "rah" in a professional context, to the point where half our volunteers had to think really hard to remember my name. Most of the close friends I've made through fandom refer to me as "synecdochic" or "syne". I feel desperately weird being [staff profile] denise on Dreamwidth.) Many of the people who caused zero problems at all were operating under a self-chosen name that had no bearing on the name assigned to them at birth.

Facebook, which has an (inconsistently-enforced) "real name" policy, has to have an abuse staff that's probably larger than their programmer staff. Dreamwidth, which lets you call yourself whatever you want, gets one or two abuse complaints a month, if that. (And before anyone starts to say it has to do with the size of the service, I'm freely willing to admit that has something to do with it. I still know that, for instance, DW has fewer abuse complaints than LJ did, when it was the same size, by at least two orders of magnitude; I was there for both. I would love to see an industry-wide analysis of "instances of abuse complaints" vs "number of staff members dedicated to handling complaints" vs "site-wide anti-abuse policies", indexed by whether or not the service has a real name requirement. If we were making more money I'd fund one.)

The argument advanced by proponents of a "real" name policy, if I'm following correctly, is that people displaying their "real" name will think carefully about their behavior, for fear of accumulating negative reputation. What this argument fails to take into account is that "real" names are not unique identifiers -- I'm not the only Denise Paolucci in the world (and I feel sorry for the other ones out there, because their Google results are suffering from the same harassment as mine are and I feel obliquely guilty over that). When [staff profile] mark started working in the LJ office, at a time when there were only six employees in-office, not a single one of his three names (first, middle, family) was unique enough to be called by in casual office conversation. I, personally, don't feel much real emotional attachment to the reputation juice of "Denise Paolucci", because that's not me. When a bunch of disgruntled griefers took exception to me doing my job and decided to Googlebomb my name and try to destroy my professional reputation, I was annoyed, but I wasn't enraged. When people start fucking with the online reputation of "rahaeli", that's when I get furious.

And, of course, none of this is getting into the disproportionate chilling effect a "real name" policy has on vulnerable populations, nor the times when anonymity can literally be a condition of life or death, nor the fact that anonymity alone is not synonymous with abuse, nor the fact that "real names" are more complicated than most programmers think, nor the fact that enforcement of a "real name" policy disproportionately causes grief for anyone who isn't an upper-class, White, Westerner whose name can be rendered in ISO-8859-1 encoding. All of these considerations are important to keep in mind, and all of them are excellent reasons not to adopt a "real names" policy for your system.

But the first and foremost reason to avoid a "real name" policy is, and continues to be, that it is worthless for the purposes people try to use it for. The amount of abuse on your service has nothing to do with whether or not people are using their real names. It has to do with the community norms, the standard that people hold each other to, the tools you give your users to manage reputation and abuses, and the clearly-communicated expectations of the service. There's a reason we have our Diversity Statement and Guiding Principles linked on the bottom of every site page: it tells you the standard that we hold ourselves to, and implicitly challenges you all to live up to the same standards in your dealings with each other. And you know what? It's working.

I am disappointed in Google for taking such a simplistic, reductionist approach to the problem of online abuse, harassment, and reputation. They can do better.
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[personal profile] medrin 2011-08-04 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me guess... You're born in the early eighties?

I have this theory that we who were born then ('83 myslef) are the most extreme internet anonymous people. Not that there aren't exceptions, but every one I've met who are insistent on never leaving out things like name and where you live not because of some external threat but just because that's what you DO on the internet was born in the early eighties.

I think this is because when internet got common we were young enough to be impressionable and young enough that the older generation was hyper protective of us against the big bad internet and all the bad men lurking there. But when those younger than us grew up internet had become to commonplace and most of the hyper vigilance had died out.

... An all this rambling just to say ME TOO. Every time I tell someone my real name I hesitate, and think do I really want to do this? There is something in the back of my mind screaming 'NEVER TELL THE INTERNET YOUR REAL NAME!'
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[personal profile] erika 2011-08-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I was born in the early '80s and this is EXACTLY what I was taught.
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[personal profile] pne 2011-08-05 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
And conversely, those *older* than you grew up when the Internet was still a small, comparatively friendly place (initially accessible essentially only from universities). They also probably first connected to the Internet when they were already grown up, or nearly so.

I think this is a big part of the reason why I (born in '74) use my real name online fairly freely.
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[personal profile] medrin 2011-08-05 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Older people (than me anyway. I'm not calling you ancient or anything...) had a different introduction to internet. You don't tell adults what to do or how to behave, you can only make recommendations. But if you were about to let lose a group of 12:yo into the schools first internet connected computer hall you made damn sure that they knew what not to do on the internet.

I've noticed that while the older generation use pseudonyms and may be mostly known under them they are not as irrationally (maybe? is it irrational?) afraid of giving out their real names. And they base their decision more on the ability for people who know them IRL to find them while we have had *THE INTERNET IS OUT TO GET YOU* drilled into us and it's always there in the back of our minds.
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[personal profile] franzeska 2011-08-06 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
My stepdad got me my own e-mail address so I'd stop using his on usenet ~1994. He worked at UC Berkeley. I guess it never occurred to him that first initial-last name is not a required format for all e-mail addresses everywhere forever. And my first name is sufficiently uncommon that I think there are two of us in the US and maybe 5-6 of us online at all even now (and for most of the time I've been online, it was just me or just me and the other person in the US). So that was that in terms of pseudonymity. After I'd been online some years, my mother started getting worried about me putting my birthdate up all over and using my real name. Horse. Barn door. *cough*

So while I was born in 1981, I know exactly what you mean. Real names were totally common online in the 80s, and that was only starting to change around the Eternal September. Half of my usenet friends went by their highly-identifiable real names; the other half I don't even know given names for. That "real names" policy crap severely impacts my ability to, you know, network with a social group that has always had a lot of both/all styles of name.

And it gets worse: I have a combination of names that is, I'm pretty sure, genuinely unique among all people living or dead. You can google me and find stuff from college and high school (at least you used to be able to) and other blatantly RL contexts. I am open about what my name is and have been so for 15+ years... And I still get accused of being a sockpuppet because my name's spelled funny. People think I'm a sock or a pseudonym for a Frances or a Francesca. Sheesh.

There's no point in even going near G- if this is what already happens in parts of fandom where people should know better.
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[personal profile] aeslis 2011-08-05 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
'82 here, and yes, this so very much. I hate putting my SSN onto valid forms, and pause every time. Not to mention phone number, credit card number, and full name, even if it's a highly secure site or one that I've used repeatedly in the past.
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[personal profile] lassarina 2011-08-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
'82, with parents who were both in IT and well-versed in the possibilities for mischief of a curious and intelligent (but sheltered) teenage daughter. XD

I also do this thing where I will invite Internets people to my house (ones I've known and trusted for a long time) and then spend three weeks panicking and second-guessing myself. And then NOTHING WRONG HAPPENS and it's fine.
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[personal profile] medrin 2011-08-06 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I've done that too! And my brain kept going *Are you crazy? Never invite people from the internet home! What are you doing! Noooooo!* And then my rational self had to insist that I really wanted to meet them and had to agree to a compromise to meet in public first to make sure that they at least weren't a axe wielding murderer. And then everything was fine! (No axes in sight!)
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[personal profile] lassarina 2011-08-06 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
My mum threw the most epic of fits when I wanted to meet [personal profile] benjamindunbar in real life. Sent my dad off with me and everything. Now he comes to my house for Thanksgiving and Christmas and is treated as part of the family. XD My experiences have pretty much been awesome. But there's always that part of my brain.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-08-29 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am now fine with known-and-trusted-forever internet people showing up, but I have had some fairly epically bad experiences with loose-crowd-of-people-with-shared-interests-congregating-via-the-internet meetups in person, where one meets people face-to-face without having known what they're like online and doing the pre-sorting there, and then when one clicks especially well with a person and wants to continue face-to-face meetups ...

... the guy who held my brother, my roommates, and me at AK-47-point and ordered us out of his place in a homophobic panic, he holds a special place in my OH GOD NEVER AGAIN files.

So I prefer to have extensive pre-screening in text, where the biases that are hidden in face-to-face pleasantries come out to play.
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[personal profile] lassarina 2011-09-01 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
....good Lord. I. Yes. That preference makes perfect sense.

(Many of my online friends now come to my house for holidays, where my mother feeds them and fusses over them just like she did my best friend at age ten who lived down the street. I just inevitably have that one moment of oh-dear-God panic the first time meeting someone.)
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-08-29 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
'80. I actually became more vigilant about it after a cascade of internet problems of one of the typical sorts -- close friend pissed off an easily annoyed crowd with a lot of time on their hands and few scruples, who decided to entertain themselves by causing as much physical annoyance for the friend and any of their immediate and tertiary crowd that they could dig up info on. But then, my dad was in the sciences and sending the occasional care package to Russia, so my family understood the concept of internet friendships well before the average household did. Though my father did check up on my internet activities and evaluated the mailing list I was on as mostly harmless, so it wasn't like I was entirely unsupervised.